So the editor asked AI to come up with an image for the title “Gamers desert Intel in droves” and so we get a half-baked pic of a CPU in the desert.
Am I close?
Could be worse.
Could have been “gamers dessert Intel in droves”
Now I want to see that one. But, I refuse to use online generative AI.
Looks like bad photoshop more than AI
Intel until they realized that other companies made CPUs, too
They also bring a “dying transitor problem we don’t feel like fixing” to the party, too
And a constantly changing socket so you have to get a new motherboard every time.
Honestly, not a big deal if you build PC’s to last 6-7 years, since you will be targeting a new RAM generation every time.
Upgraded from a 1600 to a 5600, same mobo
If only your CPU becomes a limiting factor at one point you can simply upgrade your CPU to a few generations newer cpu without having to swap out your motherboard. You can’t really do that with Intel (AFAIK they switch platforms every 2 CPU generations so depending on your CPU you may not be table to upgrade at all (can happen with AMD too, but not that frequent)
With no multi threading
I mean the i7s had SMT. You had to pay extra for SMT, whereas AMD started giving it to you on every SKU except a few low-end ones.
Is it true that all of them had SMT but they just locked it away for lower tiers processors and some managed to activate it despite Intel’s effort?
I’ve been buying AMD since the K6-2, because AMD almost always had the better price/performance ratio (as opposed to outright top performance) and, almost as importantly, because I liked supporting the underdog.
That means it was folks like me who helped keep AMD in business long enough to catch up with and then pass Intel. You’re welcome.
It also means I recently bought my first Intel product in decades, an Arc GPU. Weird that it’s the underdog now, LOL.
AMD almost always had the better price/performance
Except anything Bulldozer-derived, heh. Those were more expensive and less performant than the Phenom II CPUs and Llano APUs.
To be fair, I upgraded my main desktop directly from a Phenom II X4 840(?) to a Ryzen 1700x without owning any Bulldozer stuff in between.
(I did later buy a couple of used Opteron 6272s, but that’s different for multiple reasons.)
I’ve got an FX 8350, sure AMD fell behind during that time but it was by no means a bad CPU imo. Main PC’s got a 7800X3D now but my FX system is still working just fine to this day, especially since upgrading to an SSD and 16GB RAM some years ago. It can technically even run Cyberpunk 2077 with console like frame rates on high settings.
I mean… It functioned as a CPU.
But a Phenom II X6 outperformed it sometimes, single thread and multithreaded. That’s crazy given Pildriver’s two generation jump and huge process/transistor count advantage. Power consumption was awful in any form factor.
Look. I am an AMD simp. I will praise my 7800X3D all day. But there were a whole bunch of internet apologist for Bulldozer back then, so I don’t want to mince words:
It was bad.
Objectively bad, a few software niches aside. Between cheaper Phenoms and the reasonably priced 2500K/4670K, it made zero financial sense 99% of the time.
Bulldozer was AMD’s Pentium 4.
Even down to the questionable marketing.
I’ve been buying since the the Phenom II days with the X3 720. One could easily unlock their 4th core for an easy performance boost. Most of the time it’d work without a hassle.
Wish I knew about that trick back then! I shelled out for an X4…
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My first AMD was a 386-40. Had several of their CPUs since. But there were a few years there that it was real tough to pick AMD.
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Love my 3DNow! K6-2, also my starter.
Oh man, I’d forgotten all about 3dnow!
I decide every upgrade which one to go with. Try not to stay dedicated to one.
Basically - Buy Intel cause it’s the best last I checked… Oh, that was two years ago, now AMD should have been the right one.
Next upgrade, won’t make that mistake - buy AMD. Shit… AMD is garbage this gen, shoulda gotten Intel. Ok, I’ll know better next upgrade.
Repeat forever.
TBF, AMD has been pretty rock-solid for CPUs for the last 5-6 years. Intel… not so much.
My last two computers have been AMD, the last time I built an Intel system was ~2016
I switched to AMD because of Intel’s chip stability issues. No problems since
When I updated my wife’s computer for Windows 11 I went AMD for that reason as well. They released 2 generations in a row with now well-documented hardware bugs that slowly kill the processors. 13th and 14th gen CPUs simply will have zero resale value if they last long enough to hit the second hand market. I briefly worked at an MSP at the beginning of last year and the amount of gaming computers that came in via noncommercial walk-in customers for stability issues that ultimately turned out to be the Intel CPU bugs was incredible
I initially got the 13 series, got a 14 series as the warranty replacement. Even with updated bios firmware the 14 series also began suffering from the same instability issues, sooner than the 13. Switched after that because two chips in a row, different generations is not a small mistake. Just happy I didn’t have to pay for that 14 series only to see it have the same problem
That is insane. I know that’s what’s been happening because I’ve both seen it in the news and in the real world through work yet I still struggle to comprehend that this is what’s actually happening with these processors
Yeah it was highly disappointing. I’d always used Intel CPUs just because I picked one chipset and stuck with it. I even put up with the instability issues from the 13 for a while. At first I figured something else in the PC was dying on me. Until it reached a point where I literally couldn’t run certain applications because it would always crash that the news articles started coming out about the chip issues.
I know we shouldn’t have brand loyalty, but after the near decade of quad core only CPUs from Intel, I can’t help but feel absolute hate towards them as a company.
I had a 3770k until AMD released their Ryzen 1000 series and I immediately jumped over, and within the next generation Intel started releasing 8 core desktop cpus with zero issues.
I haven’t bought anything Intel since my 3770k and I don’t think I ever will going forward.
The 3770k was legendary. I used it for so long. I upgraded to a 7600k almost a decade ago and now just ordered my first AMD chip (Ryzen 9700X). The Intel chips were solid, did so long with them, I hope this AMD system will last as long.
Yep, I kept the 3770k until I bought a 7800x3d. It lasted that long, and I gave my son the 3770k system and it was still overkill to play the games he wanted. Rocket League, Minecraft, fortnite etc…
I still have my 3770k but it’s in storage.
I bought a 1700X and was using that until upgrading to a 3700X, which I’m still using today in my main gaming desktop.
I think you’ll be fine!
7700k here I will upgrade from (likely to AMD) one day. But still almost zero reason to.
So happy I chose to go with AM4 board years ago. Was able to go from Zen+ CPU to X3D CPU.
I remember people said back then people usually don’t upgrade their CPU, so its not that much a selling point. But, people didn’t upgrade because they couldn’t due to constant socket changes on the Intel side.
My fps numbers were very happy after the CPU upgrade, and I didn’t have to get a new board and new set of ram.
Intel and their last couple of processor generations were a failure. AMD, on the other hand, been consistent. Look at all these tiny AMD APUs that can run C2077 on a 35W computer that fits in the palm of a hand? Valve is about to drop a nuclear bomb on nvidia, intel and microslop with Gabecube.
Just upgraded from an i7-6600k to an RX 7800x3D. Obviously a big upgrade no matter if I went AMD or Intel but I’m loving this new CPU. I had an AMD Athlon XP in the early 2000’s that was excellent so I’ve always had a positive feeling towards AMD.
AMD has had a history of some pretty stellar chips, imo. The fx series just absolutelty sucked and tarnished their reputation for a long time. My Phenom II x6, though? Whew that thing kicked ass.
Intel Pentium D era sucked compared to the Athlon 64 II x2 from what I remember. I had an Athlon 64 3000+ just before the dual core era. Athlon 64 era was great
Oh yeah I had one of those before my 4790k
I played through mass effect 3 when it was new on a discount AMD laptop with an igpu. Granted it was definitely not on max setting, but it wasn’t with everything turned all the way down either.
The United States government owns 10% of Intel now.
You can pry my Intel CPU from my cold dead hands…Because I’m never buying a new computer again. I have enough computers already to last until Armageddon.
I have to lower my 12th Gen cpu multiplier to stop constant crashing when playing UE games, because everything is overlooked at the factory so they could keep up with AMD performance. Fuck Intel.
I bought into AM5 first year with Zen 4. I’m pretty confident Zen 7 will be AM5. There’s got to be little chance for DDR6 to be priced well by the end of the decade. Confident that I’ll be on AM5 for 10+ years but way better than the Intel desktop I had for 10 years because I will actually have a great update path for my motherboard. AM4 is still relevant. That’s getting to almost 10 years now. It’ll still be a great platform for years to come. Really if you bought early in the life of first gen chips on the socket for AM4/AM5, you’re looking at a 15 year platform. Amazing
For this generation we changed nothing. Except for the motherboard. K, thanks, bye.
Gotta love all the talk of no hardware plateau when we are talking about 10 year old hardware formats being desirable over the current gen stuff.
I am going to be using AM4 until there is a reason to upgrade and honestly? I think I might be on AM4 for another 10 years with how things are going.
I wish AMD has better pcie pass through for the iGPU than Intel. My jellyfin is on Intel because I have hardware encoding support.
My approach was simply to setup Jellyfin in an unprivileged container that way the GPU can be shared with other services setup similarly
Goodbye Intel, goodbye Microsoft, follow steamOS compatibility, to see what the in demand hardware will be.
The last Intel I bought new was the Pentium 4 630. 3.0 Ghz, with hyperthreading. That’s thing was a fucking space heater. And I loved it. But everything new since then has been AMD.
