• alessandro@lemmy.caOP
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    Other than the broad “Microsoft hate” people is thinking about, there are two reason I can think about; and none about Gaben being a Microsoft’s scorned ex-employer.

    1. conflict of interest: Microsoft’s EEE. Look it up. If they rule the OS on which majority of Steam Hardware work on, Microsoft rules on a competitors against it’s “Xbox experience”.
    2. Microsoft doesn’t allow open source drivers to officially run on Windows. Any hardware driver must be done, paid, by close doors at Valve and no extra help as the whole community around mesa and affiliated. There’s a reason why Valve is skipping Nvidia on basically everything.
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    5 hours ago

    It’s not the OS they planned on working with for the Steam Deck. It’s nice they supplied drivers at all for those who chose to do so.

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      7 hours ago

      Per the article:

      But because many anti-cheat apps still aren’t compatible with Linux (hence, SteamOS), installing Windows on Steam hardware is currently the only way that gamers can enjoy titles that require them.

      So it looks like Valve is at least giving tools for running Windows on their hardware for those that really really want that kernel level malware, I mean anti-cheat, to play a certain game.

      • Ibuthyr@feddit.org
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        That bullshit never stopped anyone from cheating. Why is this even a thing?

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        I was talking to a couple of people about my positive experience faming on Linux since I switched recently, and one of them seemed really interested since he hates Windows.

        The other guy mentioned “But some games still don’t work. Certain multiplayer games have kernel-level anti-cheat that doesn’t work on linux.” and I saw the first guy visibly lose interest even though I would have bet money he was going to actually try linux before. So I asked him “Do you play competitive multiplayer games?” “No, not really.”

        The fact that linux can’t run every game is apparently a turn-off for some people, even if they aren’t games they want to play.

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          The thing is that people don’t want to get that new game that that seems so fun to find out that it doesn’t actually work. Other games not working is seen as a sign of potential future trouble.

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            Yeah, it’s not unreasonable, I had to bail on Forza Horizon 6 at launch, due to severe issues at launch, and the recent DOOM DLC has some visual bugs too (there’s a PR in Mesa already!).

            It’s amazing it works this well, and the maintainers of these tools are incredible for getting fixes out so quickly when a new game launches with issues, but there are some unavoidable realities to not being the target platform.

            I think the advantages are worth it, and completely deleted my Windows install earlier this year to fully commit, but it’s naive to say that the experience is flawless and you won’t ever have problems gaming. I can definitely be sympathetic to more casual players being put off by that.

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        Ironically, this is the way to do that. If you want to be more secure you only use Windows for those particular games and nothing else.

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          Just think of using Windows as being a cuck who is fine with your kernel getting a train run on it, every day, every night, all the time.

          You literally don’t even know by how many, who they specifically are.

          But also, I’m sure its fine, no need for regular STD testing.

          … not that it would even be possible.

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      7 hours ago

      they are probably just providing the windows drivers that their vendors already have for the components inside the hardware they’re selling.

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      A big part of PCs is flexibility. I can run Fedora, Sally can run Mint, and Fred can run Windows. Contrast that with an Apple where you are stuck running Mac or some of the more proprietary software oriented vendors where the only way to use half your RGB and even display features is to run in Windows.

      Personally? I run Linux. I am happy. But I also remember when we were happy that Google was focusing on “the open source” project “Android”. And… we see how that went down. And with how many people think SteamOS is something unique and magical? I am happy now but I am definitely thinking about what 2030 will be (… if there is a 2030 but that is a different fear).

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    7 hours ago

    Those plucky Windows users love to hack hardware to get their niche software running. Good for them.

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    Seems like Microsoft is who should be supporting Windows. It isn’t like Valve can fix Windows issues as Windows isn’t open source.

    Valve offering drivers and notes is what they are able to offer for someone else’s proprietary product.

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    7 hours ago

    To me it makes sense. Windows is finicky to begin with. And through the lens of Valve and SteamOS, Windows is basically 3rd party, and many software companies don’t support 3rd party “add-ons”.

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    7 hours ago

    For decades, most games have been supporting Windows only and some of them MacOS, but little to none did support Linux

    Now, the tables have turned!