More like Epic, Sony, and/or Microslop

Fuck off, bootlicker

policing only those in arm’s length

Dude, you’re on Lemmy. Do you not realize how many people on here are saying “fuck it, let’s drop Google and Microslop and stick with FLOSS”? How many people on here are trying to convince others to switch too?

These people are already doing what they can to steer the entire tech space in the right direction. But it’s hard to influence the giants directly. To do that, you need good FLOSS alternatives, which doesn’t work if those alternatives start riddling themselves with slop

It’s going to get better that it is today and we’re going to have to live with it.

Just shut up with this line.

Every piece of human-made code that’s available online has already been trawled hundreds of times, and anything new doesn’t get added often. There are no more examples for AI agents to use in training that weren’t used before. Their progress in generating code is plateauing.

AI generated code is still notorious at hallucinating API calls and making code that doesn’t work. And the code that does work tends to be overcomplicated and unoptimized. And this code isn’t easily maintainable because the “developers” weren’t involved in its production.

I know Valve recommends using the appimage above flatpak, but even that requires little to no tinkering

I give it about 3 weeks until they put a different DRM in it

I would totally use a search engine called dogdog

Good luck getting Marathon to run on that without bugs. The distro won’t be getting the needed driver updates for 6 months.

No, you fuck off.

You’re the one going on about “the performance doesn’t matter when you can’t set up the gaming distro”. For Luke and Elijah, setting up CachyOS and Bazzite went fine. When they did have issues, the specific distro choice wasn’t the cause.

YOU’RE the one whinging about “why don’t they recommend Ubuntu!” Linus going with an Ubuntu-based distro is the cause of half of his problems, and switching to Ubuntu itself wouldn’t have fixed them.

Do I think the video was perfect? No. But your takeaway from the video is ridiculous

I think the real point is that Pop!_OS (and most Ubuntu based distros) shouldn’t be recommended for gaming.

It’s been around since ~2022 compared to Mint in ~2006

A distro that’s been around for 3-4 years is plenty of time to be up and running. Bazzite runs great and has been around a similar amount of time.

Another thing that people don’t factor in: documentation gets outdated. When I was trying to set up my Ubuntu server, a lot of documentation on what I needed was 11-12 years old, and the syntax has changed since then. For newbies, this may as well just be “figure it out yourself”.

True, but I wish Linus had tried switching distros, or at least not using a distro he’s already had issues with in the past. A lot of his problems are stemming from using an Ubuntu-based distro and COSMIC being a brand new DE that still has a bug of bugs to quash.

Hopefully in the next couple of weeks they do a collab with Wendel to go over what were the causes of their problems and final recommendations. Sure, the listicles for Linux distros are useless, but having a conclusion from trusted voices informed by people with a lot of experience (aka Luke and Wendel) would do a lot of good by cutting through the bullshit.

Yeah, don’t partition your drive just to dual boot Linux. While Bazzite has an install option for only patching the bootloader when Windows breaks it, having to run it after most Windows updates is still not something you should sign up for

Apparently it is, given what happened in the video!

Linus’s problems in the video stem from him installing an Ubuntu based distro. His problems on Discord have been resolved in newer versions, which Ubuntu and Pop!_OS don’t ship with yet, while distros based on Fedora and Arch do. And guess what? I said to install Bazzite, a Fedora-based distro.

The other guy’s (not Luke) problem with screen scaling / framerate is mosy likely due to the HDMI forum refusing to allow support for HDMI 2.1 on Linux, limiting his bitrate. HDMI can’t do 4k/120+hz without that suppory

And the reason I’m calling you a prick is because you’re going through and whining that nobody is trying Ubuntu, when Ubuntu is not the right solution for them. Ubuntu doesn’t work for everyone’s use case. Get over it.

Way to ignore the BIGGEST point in my comment to hyper focus on a secondary point just for ego.

Do I think someone should pick a distribution just because it has GameScope? No.

But do you know which distros include these optimizations? It’s the distros that include Nvidia drivers in the package so users don’t have to update them in the command line. It’s the distros that use Fedora and Arch to get those driver updates out in a timely manner so you’re not stuck waiting 6 fucking months to not have a newly released game not be a buggy flickering mess.

not worth risking fucking up your entire experience for!

This is your key disconnect. You see the OS as an experience. Most people don’t. They see it as a tool to get want they want.

You might be fine with only playing 5+ year old 16-bit indies on an AMD card. But guess what? MOST PEOPLE DON’T DO THAT. Most people have an Nvidia card and don’t want to buy an AMD card just to use a new OS. And a lot of people want to play newly released games from time to time.

You know what distro sucks for both those use cases? Ubuntu. I don’t care if it’s your favorite, those are just the facts. Deal with it.

Because Ubuntu is really slow to update, which means you might have to wait months for driver updates to play the newest games.

Also, a lot of people have Nvidia cards, and updating their drivers is a pain on Ubuntu.

Most gamers are best served by an Arch or Fedora based distro that can include Nvidia drivers automatically.

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Gaming distros can still do general tasks. They’re marketed as “gaming distros” because they have extra features like GameScope and optimizations from Glorious Eggroll. That’s valuable if you want to get all the gaming performance you can

If you have space in your laptop for a second SSD you could dual boot. That would let you switch without worrying about losing your Windows setup.

And if you go the dual-boot route, make sure you have selarate drives for the OS’s. Windows updates like to destroy the Linux bootloader when they’re on the same drive

and see more of those people than more of people like you.

Doubt.

Most likely, they think they’ll see larger increase in sales from those people than lost sales on Steam