• verdi@tarte.nuage-libre.fr
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    Of all the greedy things sony has done, retreating from PC is not one of them. Seeing as Valve will likely blow anyone out of the water with the gabebox, I too would be shitting in my pants if I were sony. In fact, the steamdeck has likely cost sony millions in lost revenue given it’s a much more apetizing console than anything Microslop, Nintendo or Sony have to offer.

    What is absolutely fucking untenable is sony not mandating Bungie support for linux in D2, considering a native version already existed for stadia and enabling BE for proton is not rocket science. Bungie is riddled with incompetent Microslop leftovers even after passing through AB before reaching Sony’s hands. D2 is dying a slow painful death, and were Bungie to enable proton play, I’d eat my hat if the population on steam didn’t double overnight!

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    They released old games on PC at super-premium price points, abused the market with account requirements, infected some of their titles with malware, and they are surprised that revenue is not as good as the consoles the games were originally released on years ago?

    Surprised Pikachu Face

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    7 hours ago

    So by Sony’s logic, €0 in PC profit per year is better than €100 million per year. Solid strategy.

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        34 minutes ago

        True in the article headline they say earnings, while in the article text they speak about net revenue. That’s what I get for skimming again. Point stands though, they’re essentially reducing their own market volume, so it is still a loss.

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    By the PS5 release date, I was over the cinematic AAA narrative style of game. That’s what Sony makes so I don’t have urgency to buy them. Really only interested in them when they’re really cheap and primarily to play a little to show off graphics to myself before I go back to playing games with graphics where uncapped I get like 300+ fps. Since the start of the PS5 gen, the only Sony game I’ve purchased so far is Ghost of Tsushima. Was only planning on Yotei but that’s off the table now

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    I think if I only made 300 Million dollars in three years, I’d probably wonder what on earth I was even doing with myself as well. What is even the point? 😔

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    A lot of the buyers on the PC won’t have a PlayStation so as long as it cost them less than 300 million to create the ports etc then it’s still a profitable endeavour for them.

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      Yes but a lot of people will buy a PlayStation just for the exclusive games. I know lots of people that do exactly that.

      Which inevitably leads to them buying a bunch of other PS games.

      Which means more subscriptions and higher profit margins where they don’t have to pay Steam’s outrageous commissions.

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        Ah yes the outrageous commissions that almost every store has? Psn has 30% so does xbox…

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    11 hours ago

    which makes the platform less than half as lucrative as the PS4 and PS5

    Left out the most important part of the title…

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      I don’t think there’s a realistic way to measure that.

      First of all, comparing sales of five-year-old games on PC to what’s going on in console land is unfair. Also, just how much does it cost them to port a game to PC and sell it? It’s gotta be cheaper than making the game to start with.

      A significant portion of that $300 Million is pure gravy. I’m unlikely to buy a PlayStation, but I’ve bought four Sony titles so far and will likely buy a couple more. If they want my money, they need to come to where I shop.

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        comparing sales of five-year-old games on PC to what’s going on in console land is unfair.

        Sony does not care about what’s fair, they care about how much money they make.

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      Yet unlike the PlayStation hardware, they spent absolutely nothing on hardware research and development.

      So the only cost is what they may have spent to have studios develop PC ports. Even then it’s minimal compared to the past with all the console hardware being x86 based and effectively just semi-custom PC hardware to begin with.

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    The question is really how much did they profit. Was it a cheap investment to bring games to PC, and gain a significant but not overwhelming return? If so, it’s a big win.

    Or was it expensive as fuck to bring games to PC and not much profit - in which case we lose out as PC gamers.

    I’m tangentially curious how much of that revenue is solely Helldiver’s 2.

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      In addition to that, its likely Sony thinks putting their games on PC is cannibalizing their console sales. There might be a little bit of truth to that, I’m sure there are at least some PC gamers that buy a PS5 just for the exclusives.

      They probably did the math and this is the answer they came up with. Did they do the math right? Probably not. I think the huge majority of PC gamers won’t buy a PlayStation anyways.

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    Peeps at Sony probably prefer to treat their PC port business as a tease to bring more PC consumers to buy a PS5. With the ramnarok and all that it’s some machiavellian perfect timing.

    Will go ahead and share this in relation to another comment thread I’ve chosen to block instead of replying: https://www.reuters.com/technology/sony-facing-79-bln-mass-lawsuit-over-playstation-store-prices-2023-11-21/

    Not that I support this kind of lawsuit anyway. Before digital storefronts such as Valve’s Steam, development studios would earn a much lower cut from game sales.

    Is the decades old standard 30% cut for digital storefronts fair? I believe that should be negotiable. Some haven’t and probably will never offer a quality or quantity of services that even comes close to those that came before them, so they could and should take a lower cut instead of increasing prices and commisions because they’re fully invested in AI slop.

    Now then, I know Valve lets devs generate Steam keys for their games and gift/sell them outside of Steam without Valve ever taking a cut from those sales. That’s usually why people can buy legitimate PC keys on several sites like Humble or Fanatical at lower prices. Does anyone know if Sony allows this as well?

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    So, in other words, they’ll have 300 million less sales in the next 3 years. Because, let’s face it, the only reason they went PC is because they don’t have grown room with the PS brand alone, otherwise, Playstation being more profitable it would have been their only choice so far.