What’s the alternative? They have to obey the law, right? What should they have done? How is this “bowing to Kremlin” as if they’re kneeling, waiting to suck their dick or something.
Genuinely curious about these questions.
This sucks.
However, I think it is important for Steam to continue operating in Russia: by seeing the living standards of other people across the world, younger Russians will develop those same expectations. Everyday things like furnishings, food, how people treat each other, and so forth. When the Russia we know dies, it will be important for the Russians of the future to have ideas and desires to drive them forward. Also, Russian authorities won’t be able to fully inspect ALL media for LGBTQ+, which means that people will see something that they “shouldn’t”.
In the long run, the media that people consume will determine how they feel their nation should become. It is my hope that Putin’s Russia will die in the coming years, and a better nation born from the ashes.
“Non-traditional”? Homosexuality has been around and recorded since the Romans and even prior. 2000+ years isn’t traditional? That’s just as long as Christianity.
It was illegal in the UK till the mid 60s, Russia is still holding out
It’s a dictatorship. It’s not logic. Fuck the Kremlin.
Why the fuck is Steam still in Russia?
Gabe needs НКВД money.
When “the right thing to do” enters in conflict with “what maximises profits”, businesses almost always pick the later.
What makes this decision particularly stark is the response from other tech giants. The same censorship notice was sent to Apple and Google, as the game has been available on their Russian mobile stores since 2020. Both companies reportedly ignored the request, leaving Flick Solitaire available for download.
It’s a matter of relative power.
‘This isn’t “wokeness”, it’s basic human rights and equality and nothing more,’ he added. ‘If Steam can’t support free speech of LGBTQ+ people, then at the very least they should be transparent about this.’
What a bizarre response. Neither Roskomnadzor nor Valve claimed this had anything to do with “‘wokeness,’” and Steam was in fact transparent about this.
I don’t really get what anyone expects Valve to do here other than comply with the law. Still, I’m surprised they’re even able to operate in Russia given all the sanctions.
Pulling out of Russia entirely is an option. It’s not like they’re relying on them to stay in business.
Well, given the sanctions, this ought to be a given. I don’t understand how valve can operate in Russia at all tbh.
Right? That was my question, why are they operating there at all right now
Valve had a big piracy problem in russia and it was ofc because of service issues. While I obviously don’t agree with this censorship and would prefer valve to entirely pull out of russia, I can see why they are absolutely not doing that. They want to provide the best PC gaming store service across the world, and they don’t want competitors or piracy to eat into their sales
The sanctions did impact Steam’s operations in Russia. Russian users currently can’t use any payment methods to buy games aside from Steam Wallet funds.
Then yeah, I’m surprised valve is cooperating. I suppose they are planning for the future, should the sanctions end.
Imagine all the “Valve could pull out of {country} next!” headlines that would never end
They ignored (legitimate) youth protection laws long enough, they could ignore this one, too.
They could just not comply? What’s Russia gonna do, nuke Gaben’s yacht?
Are you sure about that? Apple.
Google, fair enough, but I don’t know to what extent they actually do business in Russia. Can you buy a pixel in Russia?
You couldn’t buy a Pixel in Russia even before the sanctions.
Google did pause most of their Russian business. They don’t pay YouTube creators, don’t allow Google Play purchases, and while Google Workspace is available, it’s only with a non-Russian payment method. All the free online stuff is available same as before. They don’t comply with Roskomnadzor’s requests for content takedowns as far as I know (I might be wrong since I moved out of Russia and stopped paying close attention to it).
But in the end, it all comes down to business. Apple sells their devices through “unofficial retailers” that were pretty official before sanctions. They have a much stronger business presence there. Google doesn’t, and they don’t have as much to lose so they can afford this PR stunt. I’m certain that if Google’s Russian business was stronger, they wouldn’t be so uncompromising.
I can’t answer if Pussiansinten can buy a pixel or not. But I guess even Tim Cook needs НКВД money.
I mean, if you want to operate in a country, you follow their laws when in the country?
I agree with folks that they should just pull out of the country and tell customers its because of their countries laws preventing them from doing business there.
How about having some fucking backbone?
That’s how to cease operating in a country.
Valve should cease operating in Russia.
Also, Valve with every other company should already have been ordered to stop operating in Russia by their respective countries.
I don’t disagree.
So?
Do it’s not as simple as about backbone. I agree that ethics are a good reason to stop doing business with an individual but if a company like Valve were to pull out of every country based on ethical matters, they’d need to found their own country.
Not every country wants people like me dead.
If they don’t like it, they can leave Russia.
Generally yes, but legality is not ethics.
Where do you draw that line?
Start here?
Okay, we’ll impose Canadian morals, ethics and laws across the world. /s
Good luck I guess? I was talking about the topic at hand. But the idea that you fucking Canucks are imperialist bastards is not a surprise.
K buddy.
Takes games put in cart for black Friday sale out of cart. Goes outside instead.
