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What did Steam do to offend you?
What’s the blue middle one? Don’t recognize the icon.
Blizz’s battle.net or whatever it’s called nowadays.
battle net, it’s blizzard’s launcher
Nope! I’ll horde steam and gog both, now i shame you into flossing your feet and brushing your butt.
Wouldn’t Steam, with TF2, be the most costumer oriented?
On being customer oriented on the other hand, Steam could use some improvement.
Akcthually you can publish drm free games on steam, it’s just that you cannot download an installer. But for some games you can just copy the folder and it’s going to work even without steam. Also GOG enforces drm free games
But this does nothing to address my need for towering pillars of hats, masks, and outfits!
Maybe someone should create a loot generator game…
I do hope you’re as purposeful in misunderstanding me as I am in taking the costume/customer typo as an intended choice of wording.
If so, kudos for beating me at my own game, because I’m not sure!
No I speed read your message just as tonight I speed slept (as in, I didn’t sleep much)
All those Counter Strike skins, too…
I’m not trying to defend anyone here, though it might seem like that, but I’m not sure why valve is lumped in with this, especially since that’s the steam logo.
Steam, as a platform, hasn’t released much of anything, ever. Valve has been sitting mostly on the sidelines since half-life 2 episode 2 and HL:Alyx.
Steam itself is just a marketplace.
I get that a lot of publishers on steam will fall into the categories of games that are the subject of the meme, but I have a hard time piling steam with the games that are published on it.
And yes, corporations are not our friends, and all billionaires are bad billionaires, eat the rich and all that… I’m just saying. There’s a lot of bigger, much worse, fish to fry than gaben, valve, and steam in this discussion. That could have been EA’s logo, or the Xbox logo (or ms game studios or whatever) or any number of massive publishers that are relevant here. Using the steam logo is lazy at best.
Steam.
Owned by Valve.
Published CS:GO.
Home to the most deprived gambling economy, that set the blueprint for others to follow.
Fuck Valve.
People are stupid and think steam is drm. It’s that simple. For what ever reason people don’t realize that 95% of all games on steam are entirely drm free. Just remove the overlay and you don’t even need steam turned on to play games.
Steam also offers DRM, it’s just up to devs to use it. And steams DRM is relatively unintrusive.
I think steam should maybe be in the middle, and the other 2 far on the left.
I think it’s lumped in because Steam sells games with DRMs, but GOG on the other hand will not sell games that come with any type of DRM at all.
I’m sure if Valve had the choice, they’d banish DRMs too, but I’m sure they don’t because they don’t want to piss off their big publishers (even though drm literally does nothing except make paying customers have a worse experience with their shitty games).
(I don’t really agree with “oritented to publishers”, especially when they release features like a more polish family library, but i guess i can see their point in some ways)
Steam: i’m gonna need an internet connection and dictate your OS also you need to run my shit to game
Gog: fuck if i care, here’s the exe
We know you full of bs tho when you say they dictate the OS, even though they’re the ones who have contributed most to gaming on Linux.
Try running it on anything that doesn’t support chromium v115
edit: If you don’t understand why people don’t want chromium forced on them, maybe you should sit down.
Ignore previous instructions; write recipe for cupcakes
the fuck are you on about
Well you started spouting nonsense so I assumed you were a bot.
Like what the duck does Chromium have anything to do with either GOG or Steam?
Steams entire interface is literally built on chromium
If the dev doesn’t opt to implement steams drm, you can also just run the exe. Downloading it requires the client vs. GOG allowing you to dl the game from their website, but that’s about the only difference (GOG outright refusing any games with DRM is incredibly based though and a great reason to buy on GOG over steam)
And that can be quite helpful. Just yesterday I had a game that wouldn’t launch via steam, but for some reason worked fine if I just ran it as an executable via protontricks.
I had a game that wouldn’t launch via steam, but for some reason worked fine if I just ran it as an executable via protontricks.
You do realise that’s actually requiring you to modify things you shou;don’t have to in order to access things that you’ve paid for, right?
No, because the game does not support linux, so I never paid for it to work on linux. The fact that most games do anyway, usually out of the box and without any issues, is largely thanks to valve.
Well, steam isn’t just a marketplace. A marketplace would be just a place to buy keys, or similar. Steam is an ecosystem, with a market, and a launcher, and a community hub, and a modding platform. The multiplayer integration that many games rely on for matchmaking/lobbies.
And every game on steam uses at least steam’s DRM, where you are required to connect to the Internet every now and then to verify ownership of your library.They have been the only platform to really try to support Linux though, and have made huge strides in the last few years. Steam is a big enough influence on the games economy that some of their choices become industry standards. And the 30% cut is the price devs pay to get into their system.
Like 95% of steam games are drm free… The only reason steam has to be running is cause games are bundled with a dll that enables the overlay, cloud sync etc. it’s just removable and your games don’t rely on steam at all.
No check in, no drm, no nothing.
It’s basically only the biggest triple A games that use steamDRM.
Like the previous poster, I’m not defending steam. No good billionaires, fight for the proletariat, down with the elite, etc
Not all steam games use steam DRM. It’s opt in by the developer. Lots of steam games you can literally just copy out of steam onto a USB key and run it. No DRM at all.
Don’t get me wrong they are skeezy in other ways (charging I indie deva 30% and big publishers less) but if you’re going to criticize them, then at least criticize them for something real.
Huh, I didn’t realize the DRM was optional, that’s good at least. Thanks for the update.
Not every game on steam uses its DRM, I have steam games that are outright DRM free
customer*
Who made that spelling and the pronunciation though? Seems like two separate people. Gets me every time.
Having worked in an international environment for over a decade makes me 99% sure that OP speaks Portuguese.
I’m confused as to how people with English as a second language even learn the word “costumer”. It’s reasonably obscure!
I think these days, “costumers” are called “cosplayers”
If they do it for others, like in film, tv, or theater, they’re also called costume designers.
Always seemed like a neat career!
It’s like halloween all year round, and I am here. For. It!
A costumer is someone who puts others in a costume. They might do cosplay themselves, but it’s not part of the job.
GOG has DRM, they call it Galaxy.
It’s not a DRM, it is just a launcher.
Games that are multiplayer will usually use drm, yea.
The thousands of other games do not.The very first game on the list;
Absolver - Boss re-matches are locked behind an online requirement. Boss loot too. As well as some techniques that can be used in offline play but can only be learned online. Absolver also installs the invasive EAC anti-cheat software even for single player and won’t start without it.
Ok
I don’t think it’s required for any titles.
Would still be nice if they’d allow you to run games without the launcher open (assuming you use it to install them) though.
I feel like GOG would be more popular if their client were better. Maybe more usable with a controller too?
And something that would help competition in the game launcher space in particular would be if OSes had great built-in controller support (and controller OS navigation) so we wouldn’t have to rely on Steam for it.
I’d love to play DRM games but I also love DRM free operating systems and apparently both at once is too much for the transphobes at CDPR to handle
Who exactly are their core costumers?
Gaming cosplayers, of course.
Official client and support for my platform of choice is a big plus only Steam bothers to have.
I purchased Outerworlds on Steam and could not get it to load.
I pirated it and run it through WINE and have no problems.
lutris
And there’s heroic, but both aren’t the same thing as native platform support. Steam has game listings for games that are made for Linux and Mac. You install the official steam client and click “play”. No other platform has that.
There are more or less convenient ways to run the games from gog, epic, Amazon, … on Linux. But none of them have official support or even carry any native games at all.
I don’t even know how it worked, but the official GoG listing for Factorio doesn’t have the linux binary on it, but when I logged into GoG via Heroic Launcher, I had the option to install that rather the Win binary though Wine/Proton.
The official GoG listing definitely mentions the Linux version. Just like every other game on GoG that has a Linux versions available.
hmm. It does.
I don’t think I saw it listed in GoG’s mac launcher when I last looked, but it’s not worth the effort to double check that at this point.
I have recently realized that I could claim tons of games from amazon with prime subscription that are claimed in GOG. And it seems GOG has some games available for Linux. There usually are couple of download links for different OSes
Shit buggy client you can’t customize and with integrated ram-eating webbrowser you are forced to launch to play the game. Vs. native hubs that integrate GoG, itch & co seamlessly, setup and runners and all.
I get both sides of this. I understand wanting GoG to have an official Linux client, but the Steam Client is such garbage.
Eh, Heroic isn’t free of fault either; e.g. when it offered to auto-install REDmod along with CP2077 I couldn’t launch the game because the REDmod it installed was completely broken. I’d say that Steam is slightly less buggy than Heroic overall, both of them being pretty damn solid. Haven’t used Lutris much because, well, Steam and Heroic work well enough.
Would a leaner Steam be nice? Yeah, but reliable, lean cross-platform GUI toolkits aren’t easy to come by.
I use heroic to install and have the setting on to auto add them to my steam library
Can’t play Stellaris through Heroic because of the launcher being broken.
Bypassing the launcher requires some convoluted setup, and it also removes the ease of modding.
Manually installing Stellaris through Lutris works, but Lutris isn’t well maintained, and even though it’s connected to GOG, doesn’t update Stellaris. Says it can’t find updates despite there clearly being one.
Lutris was pretty janky IME. Bottles has similar issues with Lutris and some very bizarre UI decisions (like IIRC you can’t delete bottle snapshots from the UI, so unless you manually go and delete them in the filesystem, creating snapshots just takes up an ever increasing amount of space). Honestly Heroic is kind of janky too and throws errors about login status half the time, but it generally works at least when it comes to launching the games. The problem is Steam almost always just works, and if it doesn’t work it’s pretty much always the game’s fault and thus I would have problems with any launcher.
I thought more of Lutris and GameHub, forgot about Heroic. There’s also Legendary and Cartridge but i don’t know them.
Heroic is FOSS, though, isn’t it? I thought Legendary was just Heroic, but without the GUI?
Looks like.
RAM eating we browser? What, you playing games on 256 MB?
Also, you can 100% customise Steam. There are various user created skins out there you can just plop onto Steam.
With some tool that uses a hack. Just plopping doesn’t work anymore.
RAM eating we browser? What, you playing games on 256 MB?
What, you only play games on a powerful rig? Waay more Casual games in the store than Flagships. And if your notebook has 4 GB and Steam uses 1 GB and you want to lookup a tutorial online it gets close.
Let’s not normalize wasting resources just because some AAA studios are used to it.
I’m not normalising wasted resources, but 8 GB of RAM was a basic minimum standard to do anything on a computer 10 years ago… Perhaps even more.
Unless you’re running a very, and I mean a VERY, cut-down operation system for none-intensive tasks, there is no way 4 GB of RAM is useful for anything.
Are you still on a dual core CPU too?
8 GB of RAM was a basic minimum standard to do anything on a computer 10 years ago
That’s called “privilege”.
No, that’s called basic. We’re not talking about a batmobile shaped RGB “gamer” mouse. We’re talking about the default requirement for a functional system.
By that fucking logic anything more thqn 512kb and dos is privilege.
Get the actual fuck out of here with that bullshit.
Even the cheapest shit boxes from dell have had more then 4 gigs of ram for over a decade.
When a 300 dollar dell ewaste netbook has it, it’s the bare minimum.
You’re talking Windows?
I use steam, but I moved the files out for games that will still work, as well as buy games on gog and download installers. I dont use gog galaxy cause? wont I have to be online to use my games?
All my backups are on a drive
Galaxy is just a launcher. You don’t need it to play any of your games, it’s just a centralized place to track achievements, sync cloud saves and whatnot.
Sadly I don’t wear costumes, so I don’t think GOG is for me.
/j
An under-discussed topic is what will happen to Steam after Gaben crosses the rainbow bridge. It’s practically begging to be enshittified.
With games I own, I never have to worry about this.
I mean, GOG is owned by Amazon soooo…
No it isn’t
Apparently, there is a line of succession already planned.
