• MurrayL@lemmy.world
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    There’s a big difference between allowing people to comment and allowing people to be openly racist, sexist, and homophobic. Steam reviews, forums, and curator pages are absolutely full of the latter because of Valve’s hands-off ‘not my problem’ attitude, and it often goes hand in hand with doxxing and harassment campaigns.

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      Are they full, or is there a small subsection that has them and we’re giving them undue attention? I rarely come across such things myself, though that’s obviously anecdotal, I feel that at least means there’s plenty of space that isn’t dominated by what you speak of.

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        They are full. Are you joking or are you one of them? You can’t name a single game whose community page isn’t littered with nazis and/or incels

      • 🇰 🌀 🇱 🇦 🇳 🇦 🇰 🇮 @pawb.social
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        I see anti-woke racist/sexist chuds every single fucking time I look in any game’s Steam forum since around 2007 when they stopped being specific to the Steam app itself and aren’t moderated. Where the hell are you not seeing these wankers?

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        Games that get declared a target by the alt-right often do become full of it. Just because you haven’t seen it doesn’t mean it’s not a serious problem.

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        I literally avoid anything on Steam that isn’t buying a game or launching a game because everywhere else I’ve strayed, I see bigoted shit.

        Eeeeevery once in a while I’ll peek into a game I like’s discussion forum and almost without fail I find some bigoted stuff on the front page. Same deal with update/news post comments.

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      Maybe so, but the values of free speech apply to wrong opinions too. Hit the “unhelpful” button and move on. Their bullshit isn’t worth the time.

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        So I should be able to go down to my local GameStop and write the same sorts of things on game boxes and put up signs saying the same things?

        That’s speech too.

        Just because this is digital, it does not give a pass IMO. These are private spaces still. They are not administered by the public.

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          write the same sorts of things on game boxes

          Don’t be ridiculous. You’re describing criminal property damage. Of course that’s neither okay, nor the same.

          I’m sorry you feel the need to be dramatic about this issue, but Steam have provided adequate tools for the userbase to handle the problem, in my eyes.

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            Of course that’s criminal.

            Make it Post it notes, free standing signs, whatever. I mentioned signs too, for a reason.

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              I believe you should be allowed to stand in front of your local game store and say dumb things. Vandalism is something else.

              Of course, neither is currently allowed, so your opinion and my opinion are irrelevant.