Huawei's 'entirely Chinese' desktop system does not use components made outside of China, yet they still rely on semiconductor supply chain that includes tools and materials from America, the Netherlands, and Japan.
Who doesnt want an “anti fraud” app running on your devices all the time. Daddy Xi really wants to protect all his beloved children from the evil foreign “scams” by actively monitoring looking out for all under his reign protection!
At this point, I trust Chinese Tech more than I trust American Tech.
Open weights, open source contributions, their own supply chains not held at sword point, at the whims of an openly racist and undereducated administration.
And better at market capitalism than the US is, that’s for sure. I would do crimes to have a BYD EV in the garage even if they weren’t only $7,000.
But please, go on telling me about my freedoms about how our country is number one. I can’t even turn off the advertisements on this set-top box plugged into my TV.
If they have fully open source hardware and software/firmware, I actually do not object to it, in fact I’d prefer that regardless of what country made it.
But for context, I was originally born in China, and later immigrated to the us, so I have a higher skepticism of my former country than most westerners have, and its not because I was trying to be an American nationalist or anything like that.
But to be honest, at this point I’m not even that worried about privacy, its kinda near dead even in western democracies and most people dont seem to care, lowkey given up on trying to advocate for it. My biggest fear is actually censorship, and I’m not saying that the west wont attempt to push for more censorship too, but China has a bad rap for censorship, I’m leaning slight for anything thats not China (or russia or their allies). Like anyone really. Japan, South Korea, Taiwan, Brazil, Mexico, and hopefully a big bloc like EUROPE.
I’m hoping for European tech honestly. Europe pls start investing more in tech and lead the democratic world! 🙏
So exactly the same thing the tech bro CEOs are doing, except they’re doing it to sell all of our information, without any nice words towards our protection.
China’s govt may be shitty, but so are ours. And all of them are doing nearly identical shit to the citizenry. It’s so goddamn exhausting.
I have a feeling they’d lock them down and prevent alternate os installs.
Exhibit A: You can easily find bootloader-unlockable phones in the west (Google, Motorola), and in Europe, even some of the Chinese phonese are bootloader unlockable. But in mainland China, bootloader unlocks are being being heavily restricted.
Extrapolating from this behavior, its not hard to see them doing the same in the future for personal computers.
I have a feeling they’d lock them down and prevent alternate os installs.
Yea, I don’t know why there’s a debate on this. Companies in the west try to gain favor by being loss leaders while making others dependent on their tech. Then slowly turn the evil dial. Chinese companies don’t seem to give a fuck if you find a root kit in their first release.
I just hope CCP sees what their open source AI models are doing for their goodwill and try to push their companies in that direction with other stuff. It won’t last but we’ll at least have some competition.
To be fair those are actively being locked down in the west as well. Google has said as much and has been moving in that direction. Apple already does that and has since day one.
Extrapolating from there says we end up in the same place, except for us it’s CEOs doing it with government backing, and in China’s case it’s the government telling the tech companies to do it out of the gate.
Is that really any different?
The Korean tech companies are doing the same as well if you look at Samsung.
My point being that you can’t trust any western corporation any more than you can trust the Chinese government. None of them are in it for consumers, all of them are using us as pawns in their stupid little fascism game.
Printer companies do it, network companies have been caught doing all kinds of shit to exfiltrate data. At this stage, the war is already over and the vast majority don’t even know one happened at all. We’re officially at the stage of “If you didn’t build it from scratch yourself, from the natural resources all the way to final product yourself, it cannot and should not be trusted.” Sadly the average user isn’t even going to notice, let alone rebel against it.
Who doesnt want an “anti fraud” app running on your devices all the time. Daddy Xi really wants to protect all his beloved children from the evil foreign “scams” by actively
monitoringlooking out for all under hisreignprotection!At this point, I trust Chinese Tech more than I trust American Tech.
Open weights, open source contributions, their own supply chains not held at sword point, at the whims of an openly racist and undereducated administration.
And better at market capitalism than the US is, that’s for sure. I would do crimes to have a BYD EV in the garage even if they weren’t only $7,000.
But please, go on telling me about my freedoms about how our country is number one. I can’t even turn off the advertisements on this set-top box plugged into my TV.
If they have fully open source hardware and software/firmware, I actually do not object to it, in fact I’d prefer that regardless of what country made it.
But for context, I was originally born in China, and later immigrated to the us, so I have a higher skepticism of my former country than most westerners have, and its not because I was trying to be an American nationalist or anything like that.
But to be honest, at this point I’m not even that worried about privacy, its kinda near dead even in western democracies and most people dont seem to care, lowkey given up on trying to advocate for it. My biggest fear is actually censorship, and I’m not saying that the west wont attempt to push for more censorship too, but China has a bad rap for censorship, I’m leaning slight for anything thats not China (or russia or their allies). Like anyone really. Japan, South Korea, Taiwan, Brazil, Mexico, and hopefully a big bloc like EUROPE.
I’m hoping for European tech honestly. Europe pls start investing more in tech and lead the democratic world! 🙏
So exactly the same thing the tech bro CEOs are doing, except they’re doing it to sell all of our information, without any nice words towards our protection.
China’s govt may be shitty, but so are ours. And all of them are doing nearly identical shit to the citizenry. It’s so goddamn exhausting.
I have a feeling they’d lock them down and prevent alternate os installs.
Exhibit A: You can easily find bootloader-unlockable phones in the west (Google, Motorola), and in Europe, even some of the Chinese phonese are bootloader unlockable. But in mainland China, bootloader unlocks are being being heavily restricted.
Extrapolating from this behavior, its not hard to see them doing the same in the future for personal computers.
Yea, I don’t know why there’s a debate on this. Companies in the west try to gain favor by being loss leaders while making others dependent on their tech. Then slowly turn the evil dial. Chinese companies don’t seem to give a fuck if you find a root kit in their first release.
I just hope CCP sees what their open source AI models are doing for their goodwill and try to push their companies in that direction with other stuff. It won’t last but we’ll at least have some competition.
They probably won’t but one can dream.
To be fair those are actively being locked down in the west as well. Google has said as much and has been moving in that direction. Apple already does that and has since day one.
Extrapolating from there says we end up in the same place, except for us it’s CEOs doing it with government backing, and in China’s case it’s the government telling the tech companies to do it out of the gate.
Is that really any different?
The Korean tech companies are doing the same as well if you look at Samsung.
My point being that you can’t trust any western corporation any more than you can trust the Chinese government. None of them are in it for consumers, all of them are using us as pawns in their stupid little fascism game.
Printer companies do it, network companies have been caught doing all kinds of shit to exfiltrate data. At this stage, the war is already over and the vast majority don’t even know one happened at all. We’re officially at the stage of “If you didn’t build it from scratch yourself, from the natural resources all the way to final product yourself, it cannot and should not be trusted.” Sadly the average user isn’t even going to notice, let alone rebel against it.