Honestly I’ll probably get downvoted for this but I think AI in mods can be justifiable. Like say you were modding an old game and used AI to upscale the textures of some stuff. People already use AI upscaling as like a setting in the game itself sometimes. I’m not in favor of like “Claude make a mod that does X for Elden Ring” sorta stuff, but if it can help modders, who already release all their hard work for free anyway, not have to do tedious things? I’m all for that. And a label makes it so people can choose if they want to use AI mods or not. So I think it’s a good way to handle it. Anyone that uses AI and doesn’t label it should be banned immediately tho.
The problem is that AI models are trained on material ripped off of creators, without any contribution back, not even an acknowledgement. It’s unethical to use it in the first place.
Well I’d say thank you to all the creators, but there’s no way this puppy is getting back in the box. The No AI! hardlining is only going to dwindle out over time, and that’s going to be a lot faster than you think
Indie dev here and day job is an AI consultant, engineer and academic. Truth be told genai just isnt that good. It averages to the mean so it will only really be useful for some things. The issue isnt no AI or all AI but about disclosing how much and when. Using llms to support (but not replace) programming borrows from stack overflow so is less a copyright issue. But fully replacing your code or artists with gen ai will make for shit games.
Said by someone who, presumably, has never tried to program something technical because LLMs are terrible at it.
I’m using AI quite a bit to help me write code, for work, but I need to review its output so carefully. While cheerfully reporting that it was operating on a test instance, and that no destructive operations would touch live servers, it never toggled to use the test server variables at all. Even worse, it had hard coded using the live server, but only for the delete operations. That would have been a disaster if I was slop coding it, instead of using it as an AI assistant, and very carefully reviewing every line it wrote.
Honestly I’ll probably get downvoted for this but I think AI in mods can be justifiable. Like say you were modding an old game and used AI to upscale the textures of some stuff. People already use AI upscaling as like a setting in the game itself sometimes. I’m not in favor of like “Claude make a mod that does X for Elden Ring” sorta stuff, but if it can help modders, who already release all their hard work for free anyway, not have to do tedious things? I’m all for that. And a label makes it so people can choose if they want to use AI mods or not. So I think it’s a good way to handle it. Anyone that uses AI and doesn’t label it should be banned immediately tho.
The problem is that AI models are trained on material ripped off of creators, without any contribution back, not even an acknowledgement. It’s unethical to use it in the first place.
Well I’d say thank you to all the creators, but there’s no way this puppy is getting back in the box. The No AI! hardlining is only going to dwindle out over time, and that’s going to be a lot faster than you think
Indie dev here and day job is an AI consultant, engineer and academic. Truth be told genai just isnt that good. It averages to the mean so it will only really be useful for some things. The issue isnt no AI or all AI but about disclosing how much and when. Using llms to support (but not replace) programming borrows from stack overflow so is less a copyright issue. But fully replacing your code or artists with gen ai will make for shit games.
I haven’t talked to anybody who’s replacing IT, engineers, or developers, but let’s be real programmers are done. Even sysadmins will outlive them.
Said by someone who, presumably, has never tried to program something technical because LLMs are terrible at it.
I’m using AI quite a bit to help me write code, for work, but I need to review its output so carefully. While cheerfully reporting that it was operating on a test instance, and that no destructive operations would touch live servers, it never toggled to use the test server variables at all. Even worse, it had hard coded using the live server, but only for the delete operations. That would have been a disaster if I was slop coding it, instead of using it as an AI assistant, and very carefully reviewing every line it wrote.