t’s certainly been a journey for Valve. A week prior to the Steam Frame’s launch, we spoke with two engineers at Valve about the project: Joy Lyons, hardware engineer, and Jeremy Selan, software engineer. The memory crisis and the price were a big part of that conversation. From that chat, we can confirm that Valve had aimed for a lower price point than the one it’s launching the Frame for today.

Here’s Lyons on the memory crisis:

“We set out to design this hardware with one particular price in mind, but we’ve made choices to make sure that we’re making a product that is choiceful, that people can purchase, they can upgrade with different features later. But we wanted to make sure we had a base product with really great performance. Then that price target shifted due to the ongoing RAM crisis around the world.”

Lyons also said that forecasting for the cost of certain components used in the Steam Frame is an ongoing challenge.

Not exactly boding well of the Steam Deck 2.

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    Can you run Linux on your cellphone, can you run Linux on the Raspberry Pi 5?

    Wtf? The vast majority of phones do run Linux, and most of the rest (iPhones) run UNIX. And since when is raspberry pi 5 not Linux?

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      I’m taking a very narrow definition of Linux here to say that a manufacturer shipping you a disk image with a precompiled version of Linux (that is closed source) is not proper linux.

      If Linus Torvalds and co can’t make your computer run, then its not a good computing experience.

      Darwin != Linux, either.

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        Darwin is UNIX. And anyone who knows what they’re talking about wouldn’t confuse the two.

        lol

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        I can absolutely build the Linux kernel for arm from source for the raspberry pi. Whether it is using the open source raspberry pi fork or mainline. I can put any of at least a dozen fully open distros on it. Etc.

        Maybe there’s some devices/manufacturers doing this and that’s what you’re thinking of, but your core argument here is 100% wrong.

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      They run android, it’s not the same. Ever wonder why can’t you just take random phone and install linux distro on it? No, bootloader is not an issue. ARM not issue either. Closed drivers are.

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        They run android, it’s not the same.

        Lots of distros “aren’t the same”, but android runs the Linux kernel at its core.

        Whether you like it or not, it’s Linux

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          but android runs the Linux kernel at its core.

          Can it run gimp? Or any elf app for that matter? Or snap or flatpak or whatever? Nope.

          I get what you trying to say here, but that not about “is andoid linux or not” it’s about being fucking uncompatible with rest of the linux.