Having btrfs+snapper set up by default sounds good. I wish Debian-based distros in general would finally make a move there. It’s a bit of a meme that folks laud Debian for its stability, but you can easily break it with one wrong command.

And who knows, maybe TuxedoOS adopting it can serve as a proof of concept and get Debian itself to adopt btrfs sooner.

When my Tuxedo Pulse arrived, I turned it on once to marvel at the fact that it started up straight into Linux. Then restarted it to install Arch btw and never looked back. Fantastic laptop, tho.

Interesting. They are concerned about security updates delay, but then there is this: https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/securing-debian-manual/ch10.en.html#security-support-testing

Basically, it says that testing gets security updates later than stable and unstable.

Moving away from Ubuntu makes absolute sense from what they describe.

I do wonder though, is basing a distro on Debian Testing a good idea? I understand them not wanting to go to the Debian stable as they already have issues with big drift for the cutting edge tools they want to ship breaking have the unintended consequences of breaking stable software. But Debian Testing will add in a constant shift in all the packages; they may be more recent but there is a much greater exposure to bugs.

Tuxedo’s OS will itself become a testing ground for packages in a way it wasn’t before. They’re both moving away from Ubuntu AND moving away from a LTS base. Though I suppose they can always re-base to Debian Stable at it’s next big release if they do find it too cumbersome.

Still, I wonder if this will happen with other distros. I know Mint has a Debian flavour which is seemingly described as a backup “plan B” in-case they felt the need to shift. I can also see the constant forcing of Snap into the ecosystem, and now the vague AI stuff that Tuxedo quote would also prompt a lot of distros to decide how dependent should they be on Ubuntu going forward.

Probably a good decision in the long run, their rational makes sense. Ubuntu’s stubborn insistence on snap is poor decision making on their part.

I run Tuxedo as my daily driver and look forward to the more rolling release focused strategy.

That’s going to be good for all Debian users

Good decision. Ubuntu is a highly complex and specific all-in-one distribution never meant for customization.

Of course, this is why I’m using MX Linux, it’s Debian based. systemd optional, no snap, no flatpak, stable.

Is Mint planning the same? I know they have their debian edition, but don’t remember of it was meant to become the main edition at some point.