• Janet@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    10 hours ago

    not the author, but it is interesting that instead of staying on topic, you diverge the reader to some contraption that as you say doesnt even run code on the machine we are hypothetically talking about.

    i believe the article i brought forward was from an earnest, non-cheating gamer, sounds even like a dev to me, trying to clear up to non-dev gamers or devs-who-havent-touched-AC-tech-so-far-as-a-dev (like myself) why (some) anti cheat protected games dont play on linux.

    and, pardon my french but you seem to be trying to be a dick. the article was only relevant in so far as it’s about anti-cheat and was not in response to this lemmy post. look at the date.

    and i clearly stated it as only kinda relevant. so, like, chill out dude.

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      10 hours ago

      How can you read from his comment that he is trying to be a dick? He is clearly criticizing and reasoning against the point in the article you shared. The author in that article is being disingenuous or naive at best or misleading on purpose at worst. It feels like you are the one in need of chilling out.

      That’s not to say the author of the article is lying, that’s the biggest issue, the article is written with enough truth to make it seem like it makes sense. But the reality is that the article only describes why kernel anticheat is not useful in linux, disregarding entirely the fact that kernel anticheat is an absolutely terrible solution that truly only causes more trouble than it helps catching cheaters. It’s like someone trying to sell you the idea of why this or that lock for your house’s door is bad or good as it can easily be picked by an expert while ignoring the fact that most thieves won’t pick the lock and just break a window or something. Using kernel anticheat won’t stop cheaters, which should be obvious by now with so many real life examples, so it’s just extra software running impacting negatively and increasing the risk for security issues.

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          9 hours ago

          You were the only one calling someone a dick just because they didn’t agree with an article you shared. No one is fighting with you, we are criticizing the article as being misrepresentative of reality, you are taking all this weirdly personally while we were commenting on the topic of that article.

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            9 hours ago

            i said “you seem to be trying to be a dick”. now you are misrepresenting what i said.

            ok then, here we go: how do you think COULD anti cheat catch such a contraption?

            how is such a contraption relevant to a kernel driver on another machine?

            the article isnt about “how to cheat nowadays effectively” but “why dont these games work on linux?” and also what joyjoy above correctly took away: “gamedevs COULD do better and not need to rely on kernel level anticheat like valorant does and yet here we are.”

            im done with you two.

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              9 hours ago

              how do you think COULD anti cheat catch such a contraption?

              Server-side analysis of player behavior. It’s difficult and a mostly losing battle, but that’s really the only option that could be effective.

              “why dont these games work on linux?”

              The games do work on Linux. Many of the games the author described were working with Linux perfectly until the companies arbitrarily made a policy decision to block Linux players from the games. The anti-cheat is what does not work on Linux, for the reasons the author described, however the anti-cheat also does not actually work on Windows either, because it does not lessen cheating in these games. It doesn’t even prevent cheats that use traditional methods that kernel-level anti-cheat was designed to stop, for example there are many videos of cheaters showing off wallhacks and on-device aimbots in Battlefield 6 on launch day. The anti-cheat was defeated in less than 24 hours.

              how is such a contraption relevant to a kernel driver on another machine?

              Such a “contraption” is relevant because it is what people actually use for cheats in 2025, and because it defeats the anti-cheat described by the author, which they falsely claim is effective at stopping cheaters.

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      10 hours ago

      I’m responding to the article you posted.

      instead of staying on topic, you diverge the reader to some contraption that as you say doesnt even run code on the machine we are hypothetically talking about

      This is simply the current state of video game cheats. It’s not “as I say”; it is. To not even mention it while making claims like “anti-cheat is effective in games like Valorant (one of the most popular games for cheats)” is completely disingenous. Go ahead and search “valorant colorbot” in your choice of search engine.

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        10 hours ago

        as you say

        that was not claiming that you were misrepresenting something. read it again if you must. gbye