Apples and oranges : Ubuntu is a commercial endeavour with a huge entreprise desktop and server base (not unlike redhat), while Fedora is the testing grounds, community-side of said redhat, so inherently not made for IRL work.

I’m pretty sure a lot of people use Fedora for work (I do, on my Asahi macbook), but if you are a business you probably won’t, as you’ll look for something with available customer support.

All other merits and demerits enunciated here are valid, but the true difference is in their target audience.

Yup. Lightweight, Rigid, and Classy.

The “s” suffix is for Slim, which you don’t really need if it’s used at a desk in a fixed position. S series generally are lighter, slimmer (eh) and harder to repair / more fragile. That said, when careful, these are slim, elegant professional machines with excellent Linux support.

Ubuntu Studio is an excellent choice to get you started busy doing your things. It’s a work of love, from passionate people, going at it for many years now.

The only drawback is that the bundle is overstuffed, for my use case there’s just too much stuff in there lol (sound eng)

Enjoy yourself, test your creativity against the available tools, and make stuff. That’s the important part: making!

Yeah, tho I’m doing the opposite : Asahi on a macbook pro. Works great while indeed hurting conviction.

So a 12.5 screen, 12Ah battery, 2kg laptop with only USB A ports available in 6 months for a starting price of 1550€ - Please excuse the slight irregularity in my eyebrow line here.

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My Debian is the best for my work laptop
My Arch is the best for my private laptop
My Asahi is the best so that I don’t have to deal with f*cling macos crap

Just cosmetic : wobbly windows & spinning cube

Shows my age I guess

MagicQ

Arch Linux on Dell 7389 : just works. Also had OpenSUSE Tumbleweed on this machine, best installer ever.

Debian on Thinkpad X390 Yoga : with included variable-pressure pen, the touchscreen is actually a wacom tablet, perfect. Also, one if the best installer there is.

Ubuntu on Thinkpad T480s : just works. Installing Ubuntu today is literally just a couple of clicks. Wife hasn’t complained in 3 years, this distro must be doing it right.

(Everything Gnome here, no additional setup whatsoever. The KDE gang will argue that Plasma has a lot of goodies for touchscreens, be sure to check it out)

And redhat. But only in Europe.

Currently in France No OS is -€60 and with Fedora or Ubuntu it’s -€30

Don’t ask. Different markets, pricing irrelevant to actual costs

It’s a memorial.

It is important to remember it, to engrave it in stone, for future generations not to forget, before it disappears for ever.

In all the conversation, the one thing I didn’t read about was how good it is to have a laid-back, “nonthreatening” logo. People talk about history, brand, happenstance whatever but not on the positive aspects of having a cartoonish emblem that doesn’t scream “I’m serious” or “I’m valid”.

I believe this statement is a protest about apple following the current trend of oligarchy brown-nosing the musk/trump administration and reversing all inclusive and diversity programmes, supports and policies.

Edit: seems to be more about harassment

It’s cute to see the massive amount of “take care of yourself! Your health is more important than work!” on Mastodon, but I feel it is completely beside the point.

I bought my m mac because of the Asahi project ; I wouldn’t buy it today because of apple current stance gulf of what exactly?

Any windows power user or dev on a mac can follow a wiki, read a bit and learn.

Good for beginners? I didn’t describe a beginner right here. Anybody with experience in computing will find arch straightforward and satisfying. Heck, a CS student would probably go through a first install process faster than I do after 5 years.

What are the concept involved? Partitioning, networking, booting… These are all familiar fields to tons of very normal computer users.

Arch can be a good first distro to anyone who knows what a computer is doing (or is willing to learn)

That you can “do everything that windows does”. You can’t. You can do similar things, you can do different things, you can do basic things, yes, but Linux can’t do everything that windows does.

disclaimer: on linux since 2006