• fartsparkles@lemmy.world
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    17 hours ago

    V2/V3/V4 are the microarchitectures to enable e.g. glibc to search for optimum libraries for the target platform.

    x86-64 was drafted in 2000 and up until like 2020 or something, there was no way to discern microarchitecture differences to optimise compilation. So v2 is basically just anything since 2008.

    Why Red Hat are moving on from “v1” - likely because they’re spending huge amount of resources maintaining binaries for that old microarchitecture and the cost dwarfs the revenue they’re making from continuing to support it.

    With the security vulnerabilities found in older chips that require either a revised architecture or otherwise take huge performance penalties to mitigate (e.g. Meltdown and Spectre), most enterprise customers upgraded their hardware older than 2008 in recent years.

    Thankfully this is Linux so while RHEL is moving on, Debian are still maintaining support for old architectures!

    Whereas Windows 11 23H2 onwards killed x86-64-v1 support entirely.

    • Cricket@lemmy.zip@lemmy.zip
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      16 hours ago

      Thanks for the additional details.

      With the security vulnerabilities found in older chips that require either a revised architecture or otherwise take huge performance penalties to mitigate (e.g. Meltdown and Spectre), most enterprise customers upgraded their hardware older than 2008 in recent years.

      Are you sure this is really one of the reasons? I thought that Meltdown and Spectre affected much newer CPUs, so that v1/v2 didn’t line up with that. The Wikipedia article on Meltdown says up to 2018 CPUs. The one on Spectre says all pre-2019 CPUs that use branch prediction.

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      The freedom of forking is just like market freedom: a farce that hides the economic and political power needed to do so. When will you liberals learn? The fucking CERN didn’t have such power.

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        Have you ever had the experience of having a short conversation with someone but you can’t figure out what they mean? Like, the words they are saying make sense, and you can parse their sentences, but the meaning is incomprehensible?

        Then you realize that they are part of a religion, political ideology, or some other subculture that you’re not deeply familiar with and it’s pretty clear that you just glimpsed 1% of the mental framework that they operate in, but because you don’t know what the other 99% is you can’t figure out if you agree, disagree, or just learned something?

        Have also ever noticed that they tend to get Real Mad when you ask them question because the conversation quickly switches to in group/out group dynamics and you just revealed that you’re not in whatever group they are? And they also probably have very specific definitions of words and phrases as part of their mental framework that you don’t know, so both sides completely misunderstand each other?

        Anyway, what I’m trying to get at is, what the fuck are you talking about Jessie?

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          Had you ever had the experience of not even having a conversation with someone because before the conversation even began the other person has already made a neat little strawman for themselves to attack your opinion without giving actual arguments?

          Go ahead, make the fork

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            Wow! I could not have asked for a better example of this. The quick insult that might just be a simple attack on my intelligence but might also have a specific in-group meaning? It’s perfect! chef’s kiss

            You sir/madam/theydam have made my day. I salute you.