What’s the difference for a real user between using X11 or Wayland nowdays? I haven’t found anything useful on the internet, so I’m asking you. Internet articles on the topic (and about WMs too) seem to be advertising slop since they explain anything but the real things. Also, if anyone used the XLibre fork, I would love to hear about your experience with it.

  • ohshit604@sh.itjust.works
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    22 hours ago

    Every time I setup my desktop up for Wayland I always go back to X11, I find Wayland sluggish compared to X11 and don’t have the time nor energy to troubleshoot applications that had no issues working on X11.

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      17 hours ago

      I did not have any problems with Wayland for 6 months on Arch (personal PC for hobby projects and gaming). I also don’t want to troubleshoot, it just works. Most applications are installed via flatpak.

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        16 hours ago

        also don’t want to troubleshoot, it just works. Most applications are installed via flatpak.

        I’m not surprised Flatpaks work with Wayland without issue, however Flatpaks containerize the application which is something I don’t want to do for everything I download as it adds extra overhead for something that could’ve just been built and installed as a native package (.deb, .rpm).

        To each their own though.

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      19 hours ago

      Yes. This is still an important point, you make!

      Wayland has been the default for awhile, but open source software is maintained by volunteers.

      Until each specific package has been updated by the original developers, it may not work well on Wayland.

      So, for now, there’s also a trade-off:

      • Love running brand new shiny software, better use Wayland. Wayland has been the usual default for awhile, so new code is unlikely to get tested for speed and smoothness on X11.
      • Have a whole set of preferred older good enough software that hasn’t been updated lately? Consider using X11 for a bit longer until someone who loves those tools updates them.